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Really really confined engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I didn't explain ... my bad In reply to spitfirebill: I added that point because when I needed to find a replacement 4.9 for my F150, I needed to go through each in every junkyard in South Jacket to discover one that wasn't sludged up actually severely.
Bernie: Which is a far better van, while we're going to talk regarding a few problems of these vans, however I I'm clearly not going to come out and state one is far better than the various other. Bernie: Well, they're basically the exact same lorry.
They seem to be a bit extra utilized because area, yet, you understand, those are some of the uses, but they're basically the very same category of automobile. Mark: So, well, allow's begin with engines then. What issues do you see in between these two cars? Bernie: Yeah. So let's discuss engine and really simply to specify that the design years, we're going to start from 2000 and up, you understand, I mean, these vans have actually been around for a long period of time.
And, you know, for a variation of a Chevy van has been around since, you recognize, around that time also. Given that 2000, I imply, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s.
You know, Fords, and many of them come with the Triton V8. There's a great deal of issues with these engines. In the earlier 2000 trigger plugs with strike to these engines, because they didn't have adequate threading in the stimulate plug, which created troubles. And typically that would happen when you might be in a 15 traveler bus increasing a hill with a lots of people and all of an unexpected boom, an ignition system bulges and you're stranded.
So if you're acquiring anything from possibly 08 and more recent, you're not going to have that type of spark plug concerns. Various other locations though, with the Fords that we see, consumption manifolds will leakage, they'll create coolant leakages. It's a plastic manifold usually you need to change the whole thing.
And there's some problems, the Ford engine I have to state in their favour, since I'm discussing problems, it's an extra innovative engine. Expenses cam, so you're getting more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would certainly on a Chevy, which is a simpler design with press rods.
They're simply really pretty great, durable, strong engines. You know, being a van, naturally, you recognize, doing any type of service on them is much more difficult since you have actually got to remove that cover and enter servicing in weird ways. But things like ignition system last a terrible very long time, so they don't require to be replaced very often.
Mark: Can you buy these vans with diesel motor? Bernie: You can and we do service a few of them. I can't assume of if we have actually ever before done a Chevy, but Chevy, they're offered from 2006 to 16 with a Duramax diesel. The Fords have had diesels in them for a very long time, like back prior to the 2000 model year.
You understand, that's still available. If you're a say, I do not know, I'm simply going to claim a plumber and you have actually got like a whole lot of heavyweight inside your van and you're lugging a trailer behind it, that would be a truly great use of having a diesel powered van.
In all fairness, it looks like the diesels are, they seem to have much less issues in vans than they carry out in the vehicles. Possibly since they aren't worked so hard, but when things take place, they're actually costly to take care of. We've got a whole lot of videos and information concerning diesels, especially the Fords.
You actually need to think two times about obtaining a diesel in a van. And I will certainly say, Chevy is rather a lot restricted to V8 engines, however Ford has a V 10 engine as well, which is an impressive gas consuming engine.
However if you're, and once more, we're simply discussing type of a right, normal cargo van below. The diesel certainly isn't the finest option. Take a look at your objective, your usage, just how much weight you're carrying and that'll assist you decide. Mark: What regarding the transmission et cetera of the drive train? Bernie: They're rather a lot equivalent.
Something that we haven't spoken about here is what sort of van. These vans are, and it depends upon what model, they're available ever before from half heap to one lot framework and actually several of the cutaway vans are really also much more sturdy, like, you understand, 450s and 550s for state the Fords.
Usually the drive trains, you understand, I find them to be pretty much equal. Mark: So let's talk regarding steering and suspension. How do they compare? Bernie: You know, I'm going to offer the edge to Ford on this set. And the reason for Ford is that it's a little less complex.
There's much less steering affiliation entailed in a Chevy. So there are much less components to break. They do a sphere joints that wear. Do Chevy's, but it seems, and the Chevy's probably last a little bit longer than the Fords, but the, you recognize, the steering linkage is much less challenging, so there's less parts and much less products to use out.
The trip in a Ford is probably a bit extra truck like but I don't recognize if you 'd in fact ever truly noticed a difference between the 2. It appears like their elements are a little harder on the Ford than the Chevy.
Somehow, they appear to last for one brake job. And after that a great deal of times we take the brakes off and say, Oh, the dirt boots torn, therefore the caliper requires to be replaced. So I assume on a Ford and you can expect to spend a little bit more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to digress back before the 2000 model years, there were some Chevy vans that had really poor doors. I indicate, the sliding doors were crap, you recognize, actually badly constructed. Actually, I would certainly state that if you are also looking at something older, it appears like Chevy and GMC vans really and their trucks in general actually took a jump onward in top quality around the 2000 design year, since there was a lot of things where the brakes for example would certainly not last long in all.
If we're looking at the 2000 more recent, I indicate, I would certainly state they're both most likely pretty much matching in quality, fit and coating, you understand, some of the guest vans, of program we'll have better visits than the cargo vans. However I can not state that of them stands out to me a bit greater than the various other.
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